Quote from: JetSetIlly on 11 Dec 2024, 12:31 AMI'll have to open my 2600 to play with it to see how it behaves it actuality.

If it's a Jr. model, you can adjust the color without opening it. Looking at the bottom of the case, with the controller ports facing down, you'll see a small hole in the pcb under the vents on the left (6th slit from the left, bottom row). That's the color trimmer and you can adjust it with a small flat screwdriver.

Quote from: alex_79 on 11 Dec 2024, 07:06 PMIf it's a Jr. model, you can adjust the color without opening it. Looking at the bottom of the case, with the controller ports facing down, you'll see a small hole in the pcb under the vents on the left (6th slit from the left, bottom row). That's the color trimmer and you can adjust it with a small flat screwdriver.

Brilliant! I had no idea.

Do SECAM consoles have an adjustment pot. If so, what does it actually do?

Quote from: JetSetIlly on 11 Dec 2024, 09:04 PMDo SECAM consoles have an adjustment pot. If so, what does it actually do?

The only adjustable components on the board are two variable capacitors, but I have no idea what they're for.

Quote from: alex_79 on 12 Dec 2024, 01:27 AM

Quote from: JetSetIlly on 11 Dec 2024, 09:04 PMDo SECAM consoles have an adju/home/steve/Desktop/Screenshot from 2024-12-20 21-33-09.png
stment pot. If so, what does it actually do?

The only adjustable components on the board are two variable capacitors, but I have no idea what they're for.

I'm just coding up the calculation of SECAM colours and I think they might define the range for the Y component.

As we know, the HUE nibble is ignored in SECAM consoles. The LUM nibble is used to define the colour wheel angle AND the Y value in the YUV calculation. I thought LUM defined the chroma only in SECAM but it also defines the luminance as you would expect.

So, LUM 1 creates blue with the lowest Y value. LUM 2 creates red with a slightly higher Y value. all the way to LUM 6 which creates yellow with the highest Y value.

Having two controls make me thinks it relates to the min/max limits of the Y. But it could easily be a hue control and saturation or something else. I'd like to know for sure.

Screenshot attached of the generated SECAM colours.

Quote from: JetSetIlly on 21 Dec 2024, 08:35 AMI thought LUM defined the chroma only in SECAM but it also defines the luminance as you would expect.

Yes, the luminance seems to work just like PAL and NTSC models. Attached are screenshots of my SECAM console showing color bars with the "TV TYPE" switch set to "color" and TV saturation set to 50%, then with TV saturation turned completely down to 0% and finally with console set to "B&W" and TV saturation back to 50%.
(Unlike PAL and NTSC ones, The TV TYPE switch on SECAM models disables color generation in hardware.)

Note that the yellow looks actually light green in my case, probably because of the crappy digital TV demodulator, or the console needs servicing, or both.


For some reason I'm not able to insert the images inline while posting, altough I'm sure I could do that in the past.