Modern Monitor with RF input

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JetSetIlly

I don't know anything about this monitor, but an all-in-one solution (including RF input) sounds extremely useful. https://www.checkmate1500plus.com/

Video with the creator talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBVATSPPlw
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Bomberman94

No input lag? And what is still missing: the possibility to rotate the screen 90 degrees.

Thomas Jentzsch

Hm, I am sceptic.

E.g. Is it really a good idea to put everything into one device? If an important part fails, can you repair it, or is everything lost then?

Also I partially felt like being in a home shopping channel. ;D

JetSetIlly

Quote from: Thomas Jentzsch on 03 Oct 2024, 02:42 AME.g. Is it really a good idea to put everything into one device? If an important part fails, can you repair it, or is everything lost then?
It seems pretty modular by the looks of it. But that's maybe it's downfall. What I didn't realise when I posted the video this morning, was that you can buy standalone RF-to-HDMI converters for relatively little money. In hindsight, I'm more likely to be interested in one of those.

Still it might be a good solution for somebody.

Quote from: Bomberman94 on 02 Oct 2024, 07:25 PMNo input lag? And what is still missing: the possibility to rotate the screen 90 degrees.

There's little input lag according to the video but I suppose there must be some lag when compared to a real CRT.
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alex_79

Quote from: Thomas Jentzsch on 03 Oct 2024, 02:42 AME.g. Is it really a good idea to put everything into one device? If an important part fails, can you repair it, or is everything lost then?
I think the main appeal of something like that would be the aestetics: the style of this monitor fits better on top of a vintage computer than a modern black 16:9 flat panel with a converter/scaler on the side.

The real question for our user case (the 2600) is how well the scaler can cope with the out-of-specs signal from some of the 2600 games (variable VSYNC timings and framerate). AFAIK the ones currently available are hit and miss, and I feel this device isn't introducing anything new in that regard, but just integrating existing solutions into a new nice looking package.

I'm more interested in functionality over aestetics (and in any case I find it too expensive for my tastes), so I'd prefer the convenience of a separate converter that I can connect to different TVs or monitors.

Quote from: JetSetIlly on 03 Oct 2024, 03:39 AMWhat I didn't realise when I posted the video this morning, was that you can buy standalone RF-to-HDMI converters for relatively little money. In hindsight, I'm more likely to be interested in one of those.

AFAIK those are no better than the RF tuner built into modern digital  TVs, so useful if your TV doesn't support analog RF (or if you want to use it with a monitor) but not ideal for retroconsoles. For example, they typycally don't recognize the progressive signal from the console and treat it as interlaced, applying a deinterlacing filter which degrades the image and produces artifacts in case of game using flickering.